Heeled, NOT Healed

I was sitting on an exam table in my physician’s office earlier in the week; that is, until I levitated in pain as he gently probed a small lump by my left ankle. The diagnosis: inclusive cyst, otherwise known as, a painful bundle of nerves formed due to an injury. Nothing like a hot poker searing through my ankle. I, of course being a lady, did not express myself using expletives and said, “Ouch that hurts!” Believe what you want. Treatment: numbing spray (We medical professionals have it all wrong, don’t you think? Spray, then probe…not probe, and then spray!) followed by an injection (another experience I’d rather forgo). I vaguely remember him saying if that doesn’t work, he’ll have to excise it. If it hurt to touch it I can’t wait to experience an excision! I may perfect long term levitation. Hopefully, it won’t come to that.

I suppose you’re wondering what this has to do with salsa dancing. My injury occurred when another lady’s backstepping heel unintentionally caught me. I remember it well and had to leave the dance floor (Yes, I do on rare occasions leave before the end of the dance.). I’m sure many a leader & follower has experienced this phenomenon.

I’ve been thinking of ways to prevent this from happening to me & others. Ban high heels from the dance floor? (Dance sneakers are sooo fashionable with dresses and skirts.) Retractable heels? Apply tethers to prevent large back steps? (Wouldn’t that be fun? Attach to each limb or partner to partner? The visual is a nightmare or a fun situation.) Individual force fields or capsules around couples? Invisible armor? Teaching etiquette every night? Limit the number of dancers on the dance floor at one time? (Yeah right!) Quit dancing! (NEVER!) Or grin & bear it. Is there even a simple solution? Anyone have any ideas? I’m open for suggestions.

I guess I’ll probably grin & bear it and take my chances since I am addicted to salsa. I will, as I have done in the past, politely offer suggestions to the novice or “wild women” dancers in how to keep their feet under their frames and expect the same in return should I stray. I, too have unintentionally spiked others and offered apologies at the time.

That brings me to a disturbing incident shared with me by a fellow salsera. She was purposefully spiked by another woman (Lady she was not!). Apparently the woman (sounds like the other woman in a love affair) turned and mocked the salsera following the incident. Sick! I had to think if I have ever purposefully spiked anyone. Shamefully, I have to admit to two occasions not mocking them. That doesn’t excuse my behavior. (Lightning bolts hurt! The mark on my side isn’t a birth mark! I stand humbled.) The first incident occurred in Toronto at a concert after a woman repeatedly pushed, pinched, put her fist in my back, & shoved me in order to stand where I was standing. Mind you, there was plenty of room to my right. After politely asking her to stop numerous times, moving to my left, giving her the evil eye (I’ve been told that look is deadly.), my patience was at its limits & I let her have it. I didn’t understand why she looked surprised. Thankfully, she moved to my right and never touched me again. The other incident happened last year. A couple I have admired for their dance skill decided to push their way onto the dance floor one crowded night. Admiration is gone now. The leader had his back pressed up against mine and kept pushing. My partner & I were shocked. It is very difficult to take a back step (even Cuban style with no back step) and maintain balance with one leg in the air in that situation. I suppose I could have assumed the “Pink Flamingo” stance for awhile had he not been pushing. Would that be considered a new “shine” on one, on two, on whatever? I lost it again. Sorry. The couple looked surprised (I still don’t get it.). We all stopped & I said a simple statement about sharing the dance space would have been sufficient.

Do we simply lose it from time to time? Are we Salsa Possessed? All I can say is I hope we can be kinder to each other so we don’t hurt or get hurt in the process. I’d hate to hear of anyone else developing an inclusion cyst. Heeled, NOT Healed? That is the question. Or is it “Do, or Die…or Die, or Do?” Think about it and let me know.

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Dance Injuries

So sorry to read about your heel injury, Sharon! Here's my story... Sunday night at Sangria I got my nose bashed in with an elbow... and it was a bloody mess! To the guy who did it -- I totally forgive you, because you meant well (he was trying to "block" me from another flying limb). I think I'm okay -- my nose has been a little swollen and tender since then. The point is that when it gets that crowded, dancers need to have AN AWARENESS OF THEIR SURROUNDINGS. It's like driving a car -- you need to observe the traffic around you! If this means dancing "smaller", and without the fancy stuff you want to do, then so be it. This "awareness of space" needs to be taught right along with the basic step, cross-body lead, etc. And, by the way, thank you to Olivia who showed me how to stop the bleeding and saved my life! (I spent a 1/2 hour in the bathroom!) Thanks for reading my rant, everyone! Best of luck to you, Sharon. See you all on the dance floor!! -- Mambo Marci

Dance Injuries

Ouch!!! Glad to hear you're okay! It ceases to amaze me how many "leaders" don't take their responsibility to "protect" the ladies more seriously. With a often overcrowded venue like Sangrias I'm surpirsed there are not even more injuries. I'm relatively new to the Salsa community and where I take lessons it's reiterated over and over that us leaders must ensure that we're leading our ladies into clear and safe paths; even if it means not being able to "shine" as we wish...

Who is teaching dance floor etiquite?

Where are you taking lessons? One of the things that I find lacking in the dance instruction is social dancing and the need to be completely aware of your space and in control. I'm going to get crucified here, but in many styles - especially ballroom, the dancers are not taught to dance in place and make very large movements with their arms and feet -- very difficul t on a crowded dance floor. No, I'm not saying they are the problem -- we all are to various degress. We should all learn to dance in our space and in a limited space. I learned my lesson after knocking two people on the head in one night. After that I vowed to be a considerate dancer. My main mission is to do no harm - the shines and turns all come after that. One suggestion I have is practicing in front of a fixed object like a lamp -- you will be amazed at how much you move. While it's more difficult and not that typical, I hope that dance instructors will gear their lessons to the rigors of social dancing which involves navigating a crowded crazy floor.

Geo-

Good points all

George - I always feel safe dancing with you because you are one of the few who literally "protect" me from getting banged up when we dance. It's noticed and much appreciated. Just why is it that etiquette isnt't taught more often? Can dance instructors out there (those who teach us in the clubs, not just in the studios) work a little of that in every lesson, please?

technique

Who does not teach social dance floor space technique? I will not recommend them! Ballroom dance profesionals do teach the importance of social dancing on the dance floor.

teach them

Maybe not recommend them, but recommend that they teach dance floor ettiquete, maybe they are just too busy teaching moves and have not got to that part. Most of the instructors I have encountered are very good about prtecting and looking out on the floor. Great recommendations and comments by all.

Dance floor etiquette

I'm taking lessons with Duane. Sunday nite there was one guy seemingly inebriated that just kept bumping into us. I tried to take the brunt of his contact from my partner. In hindset though I think I should have said something to the guy.

Assuming that it wasn't me...

A lot of times if there is a guy/couple like that I'll dance with my back to them and keep my partner on the other side -- so no cross body leads. Also, when they come into our space, I put my hand - very very lightly -- on their back to let them know where we are. I'm also know to just put my arm as a separator between us to make sure my partner doesn't go past it and they don't go past it. Those things usually work and I rarely get any evil eyes.

Geo-

dance injuries

I have been stepped, kicked, elbowed, HARD! And while it hurts, it is part of the dance floor. I do not believe anyone is purposely out to hurt anyone, but all dancers must check themselves on a crowded dance floor. Most will turn and immediately say oops, sorry, but I find that some of the guilty parties are very incosiderate and do not even look around to see who they hurt and you know when you step or touch anyone as I have been on both ends even when I am working hard on looking out. Unfortunately, these people do exist and one must try to avoid them on the floor or navigate out of their way. Braves one should call them on it and say "ouch" while looking straight at them, maybe they will get the clue and become considerate, without being rude, but just acknowledging the bumps.

So sorry to hear that.

Marci, So sorry to hear that. Come get me or send someone for me when necessary. I am a nurse & know first aid. On Sunday one gent wasn't even aware of "dance space" & ran us into the couple next to us repeatedly. I felt horrible. I didn't have the opportunity to remind him but will when I see him again. I apologized to the couple. I got my other ankle bruised when there wasn't a lot of people on the dance floor by a backsteeping gent. I iced it right away & am fine. Bruno politely reminded me to position my right elbow down & in. I have a tendency to rotate outward since my shoulder surgery. I am grateful for his reminder. The sarcastic, condescending, obnoxious, or mean remarks by some leaders are not appreciated, especially when it was their mistake. I tell them I'll be happy to clean my side of the street when they take responsibility for their part. It gets their attention. If they don't want to dance with me, so be it. Rudeness never wins with me.K-Shep, I, too rmember reminders in the classes. I appreciate a leader concerned with the safety of all who pays attention to dance space. Sometimes it is the ladies who stray too far away or are too wild for them to protect. Then you can only do their best and try a gentle reminder. Some ladies don't want to listen, unfortunately. Be safe everyone & heal.

Sharon

excision

Hi Sharon,
Before any excision I would consult with a specialist if you haven't done so already. I was "heeled" in the calf at the Harem this past summer. It did hurt. I only suffered a big, ugly bruise, though. On the other hand, I inadvertantly gave one of my partner's a bloody nose by sticking my thumb up there (yew!). That was one of my most embarrassing moments. We were at the Troy Dance Studio and he wasn't discreet about it. However, I did apply first aid. I guess with any physical activity we risk the chance of injury, but dancers really should practice control and etiiquette to avoid preventible casualties. Good luck in your recovery.

Where is the camera when you need it!

"I inadvertantly gave one of my partner's a bloody nose by sticking my thumb up there"

That is truly hilarious!

Speaking of control, it is something I constantly try to bring up when teaching a class at the Harem. I also show students my chipped tooth to try to reinforce the message. Once time while dancing at Heat nightclub in Pontiac a lady elbowed me so hard in the mouth I thought I lost all my front teeth. Lucky for me it was only a piece of a tooth.

Like you said, if a phyical activity like dancing it is bound to happen...

Check out this salsa slip up...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQn1JJo0Tso

Accidents will happpen

It's so true that accidents will happen, but like anything many if not most are avoidable. I should say that most instructors I've had over time do talk about some things like looking where you are going and keeping elbows in and taking smaller steps.

What isn't really taught that much is navigating and planning your dancing. Dancing in one small spot -- that should be a pattern too. Keeping your hand ready to block people as they come in too close. Changing styles to slower simpler dances and patterns. Being very consistent on the line that you are dancing. Tightening your turns so that you are not traveling all over while spinning. Being able to stop and controlling your momentum... I could go on, but you get the point. There are lots of things that one needs to learn and most you learn by being in the pack.

The tooth accident is a classic example of elbows out and having momentum more appropriate to a roundhouse than a spin. When moving on the dance floor, one should be able to stop pretty instantly on contact and not pass on any of momentum to their dance partner.

Geo-

Pay Backs Are:

My karma caught up with me a few months later by someone else giving me a back hand to the cheek. But, yes the bloody nose incident was hilarious! I didn't realize Salsa was a contact sport.
Elizabeth

Pay Backs

Never would have guessed
Sharon

Consult

Believe me I know my options. My health is very important to me. The doc is a specialist & when I want a second opinion I get one whether or not the doc agrees. Thanks for the concern.
Sharon

Dipping danger too

Besides the normal kicks and steps - I've also been banged in the head and smacked in the face when being brought up from a dip. There are some great pictures of me at the skymambo website with a huge fat purple lip from the second occasion. I like being dipped as much as the next girl, but not when I'm brought up right into somebody elses elbow.

Or brought up into someones

Or brought up into someones butt...

egads!

Seriously, does that really happen? Do they NOT pay attention to where they're putting your head?? I'm cracking up!!

Or are they?????...The bouncing dip or

Or are they?????? LOL
Once, I was dipped so quickly to the floor I bounced back up like a spring board & almost went flying. My partner sarcastically said, "I certainly didn't expect that...what were you trying to do?" He was the one forcefully dipping without warning. I told him I was practicing sprinting & wanted a jump start! He didn't catch on. I recently watched a guy drop his lady 3 consecutive times while "practicing" on the dance floor. She said something to him each time. He was not in control & injured her foot or ankle. She slapped him the third time. They worked it out & practiced more safely later.
When it is crowded I question whether it is appropriate or not.
Sharon